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Hello and welcome to yet another Wrong World Wednesday. It’s not a regular one, though. Today I’ll be talking about “normal people” with Mark, a fellow Blogger. He’s a cool guy, do check him out. (His text will be made italic, and have an M in front of it. I’ll precede my own text with an F.

[F] Normal people are, quite literally, everywhere. But how do we define a normal person? In my eyes, it’s someone who doesn’t stay true to him/herself, and tries to live up to the modern-day standards on how everyone should be. I guess you could say some of them are afraid to show their true selves to the world.

[M] As odd as it might be to believe, I actually found a use for normal people. I always say that normal is boring, and I think one of my greatest fears might be to one day wake up perfectly “normal”, but they are necessary. Normal people are the ones that are more likely to be getting things done, especially more mundane things. They are the people buying things they don’t need, though I’ve done that myself. I think I sometimes just have a loose definition of “Need”. Anyway, yes, normal people keep the world turning just as much as the special people. I was able to actually think of another reason too, but right now I’ll hand you back to Fang, I’ve said about as much as he did.

[F] I don’t entirely agree with that.
It may be harder for a non-normal person to get a job, due to him/her being so eccentric, and not conforming to today’s standards. Like I said two weeks back, people pick on others because they are different.
Do note that this is far from always the case, but I do believe it happens.
Saying that normal people are more likely to get this done isn’t something I’d go with, either. It all depends on personal motivation. Normal people have most likely lived pretty normal lives, haven’t faced any real hardships, and thus don’t feel the need to show all they got right away. This is largely individual, though, so you can’t really generalize it.

[M] It is mostly an individual matter. But without people who are willing to settle for not being at the top, we would be in a bit of trouble. Again though it’s an individual thing. Also though, I think that normal people make the non-normal, or special people, more special. The rarer something is the more appreciated and sought after it is, the more special it is when you find it. People who are eccentric might not have less chance of getting a job, showing enthusiasm makes you more likely to get a job actually, but there are less jobs that eccentric people are willing to take. Again though that is individual. Even eccentric people are willing to settle for a job they’ll force themselves through if they’ll appreciate their need for money for some reason, such as supporting themselves or another.

[F] Good points, good points.
But we actually should’ve started with this: how do we define a normal person? What makes someone normal? Average income? Regular family situation? Non-religious? Normal clothing style (no gothic, for example)?
And what about behavior? Kind? Not caring? Easily influenced, or influencing others?

[M] This is something we should have started with. What defines normal would be here someone who fits into the social norms. Someone who wears clothing you’d expect for someone of their age/generation. I think that for now being religious remains the norm. I think for the purpose of this argument a normal person should be defined as someone who is happy with being low or middle in the job ladder, who keeps their noses clean and who goes through their life in what would be considered a normal way. They are the people who are happy to let others tell them what to think, what to do. I think they would be easily influenced, but go through life with a general apathy. That isn’t to mean that they don’t care, but more that they’re just happy with what they can get, rather than striving for more. They’ll take a chance if it comes along, but they won’t make their own chances. I think that’s what a normal person is, for the sake of this argument at least.

[F] Meh, it’ll always remain very hard to define these kind of things. Most attributes are individual-based, and there aren’t major patterns or relations with class, gender, etc.
I guess this is where most discussions of this kind reach a dead end: the impossibility on agreeing what a normal person is, and that actually being true to the real world. (If we were to go by average people, however, the average person would be Chinese by the way.)
So yeah, I guess we’ll wrap it up here. You have any last words, conclusions, punch-lines, to make

[M] Just that normal is boring. I’d consider “average” and “normal” to be the same thing. Even the “non-normal” people don’t have any major patterns or anything, it’s just that people consider them weird, or different, and I’m proud to be one of them. I consider weird a compliment. I had fun doing this, hopefully if we do it again we’ll get a topic that can avoid a dead end, but I suppose there did have to be one or it would just keep going. All that’s left to say I guess is, don’t be afraid to be different, but also there’s nothing really wrong with being normal. There are probably even people who would rather be normal than different.

[F] I honestly couldn’t agree less, very well said.
Stay true to yourself, be happy with who you are, and do things when you feel like doing them. Don’t let anyone else tell you how to live!

It’s been great fun having you over here, Mark, and we sure should do this another time! (This turned out pretty damned long, though!)
~ Fang

Comments

  • 15/09/2011 (7:04 PM)

    bit long but a great read

  • 15/09/2011 (3:58 PM)

    Wow.. this post is great.

    Hmm.. yeah, how does one define a “normal person”.. really. What makes us normal.. or speacial? Hm.

    I am a normal person, I think. Haha. Well, because I live according to the social norms. But personally, I consider myself as a weird gal. Special-weird, but in a good way. Can’t explain. Long story. haha..

    I love Mark’s statement..

    “don’t be afraid to be different, but also there’s nothing really wrong with being normal.”

    Great read. :)

  • 15/09/2011 (11:49 AM)

    Woah! Wall of text!! You could have posted some pictures to motivate us into reading that whole library of text there.

    Normal is just an illusion, there’s no such thing. The word would mean differently according to the person using it.

  • 15/09/2011 (6:34 AM)

    They tried to find the most “normal” man they could once but because there’s so many criteria that you can use eventually they ran out of people.

    And I mean, they started with thousands.

  • 15/09/2011 (12:10 AM)

    Great read. What is the definition of normal? Hmm…

  • 14/09/2011 (9:34 PM)

    Yeah, should podcast or something.

  • 14/09/2011 (9:26 PM)

    Everywhere I go, Mark Mark Mark. HE’S EVERYWHERE!

  • 14/09/2011 (9:23 PM)

    You’ve got a very negative view on normal people :P

    Bu I kinda share those views…

    And indeed, do a talkshow! :D

  • 14/09/2011 (8:37 PM)

    I am a normal person.

    Sadface ]:

  • 14/09/2011 (8:11 PM)

    I’ve met many people in life and no matter how “normal” they seem at first the more I get to know them the more I see they have weird quirks. Everybodys normal! (and weird)

  • 14/09/2011 (7:01 PM)

    You guys.

    Do a talkshow.

  • 14/09/2011 (6:32 PM)

    LOL It did turn out longer than I thought. I’m glad we didn’t stick with the original plan of 10 paragraphs each I think it was. It was fun though, it’d be nice to do it again ^_^

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